10 russian warships off uk coast

'This of course would be the most costly economically, politically and in terms of human lives and that's probably why it's least likely,' Melvin said of an all-out invasion. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. And you dont have to sink a warship to take it out of the fight. HMSs Dragon and Defender never had Harpoon fitted. Its all well and good having such weapons, but they arent much good without good accurate targeting information. So can be used if the IIR seeker doesnt see the target. Really poor analysis of a foreign state. As the region is already occupied by pro-Russian separatists, and has been in a state of war since 2014, it was believed it would offer little resistance. Ryabkov, referring to Moscow's version of events in which a Russian aircraft bombed the path of the British destroyer, said that in future bombs would be sent "not only in its path, but also on target.". Nine Royal Navy ships have completed a "concentrated operation" to shadow seven Russian warships, the British Royal Navy said Thursday, citing "unusually high levels of activity" in the English . slow not stealthy the bocks the UK has have quite limited onboard electronics. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk, Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk regions. Using it just to illustrate how the forward presence of US/Nato forces in Eastern Europe may or may not influence Russian decision making. Just do what I do and refer to wikipedia according to which the class was commissioned between 1975 and 1991. Etc, etc. I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. French President Emmanuel Macron has offered to send troops to Romania., https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60077776. Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? Morning Sean. The US Debt and How It Got So Big Updated December 30, 2021, https://www.thebalance.com/the-u-s-debt-and-how-it-got-so-big-3305778, i bet tyne sent shivers through the russian group. Special Forces, or a couple of thousand US Marines or Paratroopers. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. Yes he did, totally out of the blue and unqualified for the job Hunter turned up as a direcyor of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company, on a juicy contract. The most comprehensive solution to manage all your complex and ever-expanding tax and compliance needs. . The same Russian warship has since conducted military drills in the Norwegian Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced. Using missiles at that close a range in very crowded waters would be crazy. Preliminary analysis of the vessels suggests 3 groups. This is a normal response to transiting warships from other nations., Russian amphibious assault flotilla to transit English Channel. kill chain is very complex to find, track, and then engage a warship at range that doesnt want to be shot at. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? See reply above. Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. We do need more ships and we will increase the number of frigates in the years to come. The RF receiver can help to lock onto a RF signal that matches something a target ship would emit. The 210-sailor warship left the port of Murmansk in northwestern Russia on January 6 for the Lofoten Islands in the Norwegian Sea. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. He urged Putin to take 'the path of diplomacy and dialogue to try to resolvedifferences there are peacefully' hours after the Biden administration said it would provide an additional $200 million in defensive military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression. My point still stands EFP is a deterrent/trip wire force to prevent Russia thinking she has an option to interfere in those countries. (apologies for the convoluted English there!). Clever move, and itll be Trumps fault the Russians invade on Bidens watch. Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. The. I have lost count how many times I have read about explosions in Iran over the past two years or so. "Today, a detachment of ships and support vessels, headed by the large anti-submarine ship Vice-Admiral Kulakov of the Northern Fleet, passed the Pas-de-Calais and continues to move southward in the . Douglas you are as delusional as can be in your explanation (Bidens fault) for why this is happening. 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. I wonder if we could see a real boost in our defence budget? By teatime at least during the cold War the surface arm of the RN was given 7 days before lights out 6 days more than the RAF , only the Army faired better indefinitely if resupplied ? The Black Sea, which Russia uses to project its power in the Mediterranean, has for centuries been a flashpoint between Russia and its competitors such as Turkey, France, Britain and the United States. Assassinations of nuclear experts. Dont think its just down to initial build costs either, providing a crew for the kit and paying for them over the lifetime of the ship/s probably has a bearing on this issue too. We live and learn. The Ukraininans particularly will give a good account of themselves. U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S. Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and. Last night a senior defence source said: 'We strongly believe [Putin's] preference is for a full invasion rather than a limited offensive. You forgot about their national dish: kapusta cabbage soup, the outer leaves of which can be distilled hic apparently hic. The ships - which included a . One can hope that cooler heads will prevail, and we start sorting ourselves out! Still better than a 4.5 gun. Yep, putting a heavy weight anti ship missile in a cruise ship would be the ultimate fuck up and hand a victory to Russia. Unlike the Ukrainians who are, in the main, suffering out in the trench systems with a serious number of dont want to be here conscripts. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. I have little faith when the top brass commit to building frigates that have no ASW or AsUW capabilities. Large cruise missile ship, the Marshal Ustinov, is one of at least three Russian navy ships that have been travelling back from the Mediterranean to their home port in the north of Russia. A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. Times where unity is needed he takes EU presidency and is calling for the EU to do their own deal with Russia. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. We need to re-evaluate our position in the world, step back, calculate the cost of the CASD add that amount to a Defence budget set at 3%. I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! Dont we have typhoons in the Balkans and Romania? So, USA has no troops in Ukraine? The Russians will only invade if they think they can get away with it and thicko Biden has given them the green light by saying he wont defend Ukraine. The rest of Ukraine is a sovereign state and fully independent of anyone. They attack a completely different country miles from that one? As to Corbin(Corbyn) and American born Johnson, well in my opinion Corbyn is poison and Johnson is a clown beyond redemption Regards Geoff(who is btw an ardent Americophile), Douglass post about this being Bidens fault instead of Putin and his yes men is just not true and I dont think its the time to encourage them. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/kremlin-insider-klyushin-is-said-to-have-2016-hack-details. Their problem then, as now, in terms of getting into the EU, was/is corruption. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. Not many decent investigative journos around now. Perhaps all they want is a buffer zone with no NATO assets in sight? The Coast Guard said the ship is . Syria is not a big news story for Putin. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. Its not as easy as it seems, accurately targeting the correct vessel in high shipping density waters. Most likely require a supplementary MoD budget? A lot older but the modern B52 is like triggers broom. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. You are right. Biden??? 11:10 GMT 19 Jan 2022 "These aircraft posed no immediate threat to HMS Defender, but some of these manoeuvres were neither safe nor professional," Britain's Wallace said. Kyiv might also be provoked into attacking by the separatists who could then ask Russia to send troops to help, he said. "It is a hypersonic sea-based system - [and the vessel has other] latest-generation weapons. The Telegraph values your comments but kindly requests all posts are on topic, constructive and respectful. "I am sure that such a powerful weapon will allow us to reliably protect Russia from potential external threats and help ensure our country's national interests. 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. Xi has exactly the same problems internally in China and may be actually undetaking a modern genocide of the Uighur for which the Taiwan crisis is his distraction. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. Hope the Turks can hold them up over their passage through the straights and send Putins timetable skew-whiff. There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. The situation is quiet at the moment but when Idlib lights up the Russians will be there in force. Screen for heightened risk individual and entities globally to help uncover hidden risks in business relationships and human networks. 'I am not ashamed to ask to help us with everything that is possible to avoid this war. The comments below have not been moderated, By They took over from @kon_marine and will pass onto the @MarineNationale to continue the escort. This was at the request of the Australian Government. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. However, the IDF has a long standing policy of refusing to confirm or deny allegations ofRead more . If Russia invades what do they do next? If I see him Ill ask. Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov is closely monitored by #SNMG1 ship HMS Portland in the North Sea on Jan. 9 #DeterandDefend #StrongerTogether pic.twitter.com/6DN7EmL7EO. He may lose power after a disastrous foreign adventure. The oil tanker Kama seems to have followed it, French media reported. No-one will be able to fight back in an all in war today. Most of these incidents were blamed by Iran on Israel. RNs lack of AsUW is a gamble, otherwise why retain harpoon? Russia isnt confident, Putin is looking for foreign enemies to placate the growing criticism at home. You act like the US has nothing to prepare for or be cautious with and we can throw our weight around like Panama in 1989. The USA didnt pick UkraineRead more . It remains unclear whether tanker Karma accidentally revealed its location. The only Ukraine people fighting for their independence are those in the Donbas. Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. if 25% could actually get out of harbour before breaking down! Pentagon officials confirmed the basic details on Wednesday. This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. The weakness is in Biden. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. US is now flying in warlike items to Ukraine. Biden is standing up to Putin in every way logical. No, but it would be interesting to know what Circumstances would trigger that. No they didnt. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. They now believe they have achieved their goal and no longer have to bowRead more , Err no. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. We will see who is right in a month or two. The vessels were found by Naval News with the help of Damien Symon, an independent defense analyst. Germany doesnt need anything but some supply depots and rear HQs. Where do they and other countries replace it from? Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . . good job that idiot trump doesnt have access to the red button or the west would be rubble. The Turks the bosphorous cutting off vital Shipping routes to Russia. Irish defence forces have been monitoring the activity of Russian warships that on Tuesday made a U-turn off the country's coast. EFP is tripwire forces (and not many of them ie only 3 Battlegroups in total) to prevent Russian incursions into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or rather to reassue the peoples of those countries they are not going to affect the Russo-Ukraine situaution. A senior State Department official said: 'This is neither an exercise nor normal troop movement. Russia has accused Kyiv of harbouring plans to retake the region by force, something Ukraine denies. Are you saying another country told Iran to attack the UAE? Will it would be nice not to hear from that stroppy self-important brat anymore, I doubt your proposal will solve either of the threats we face; Russian aggression and climate-climate. I was just using it as an example of how the presence of a capable foreign military in a potential war theatre could complicate strategies. And even 2 or 3 Astute boats would give any fleet a serious headache. My good friend and neighbour, an ex USN chief engineer on subs is a mildly Right of Centre Republican but even he voted for Biden in the last election. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week warned the United States that the hypersonic missiles would soon be close to NATO's shores. loads of shps. Under USSR the orders would come from Moscow but the big red button was at the command post for each group of silos in Ukraine. Whilst the Canada and now Mexico border problems are now very real indeed. Published. If this invasion happens it could well lead to the Chinese taking the opportunity to seize Taiwan, Iran will cause trouble in the Straits of Homuz and missile man could well take the opportunity to invade the South. But at various times four navy frigates were deployed. Asking whether Australia will sell us a handful of their Block II Harpoons; the practical solution to the (cancelled) interim AShM requirement? "If you don't change the course, I'll fire," a heavily accented Russian voice said in English to the British ship. Lets be honest, in hostilities, they wouldnt be sailing unescorted or going through the channel! Sweden has also been reinforcing its forces on the island of Gotland in case the Russians attempt anything there. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. Land, they have plenty. Kongsberg have said that the NSM will also get the receiver. Do you regard all the military and NHS etc senior people joining companies after they retire that they may well have helped gain orders as corruption? I think one of Moscow's long-standing goals has been to try to sow divisions between and within our countries and quite simply, we cannot and will not let them do that. A fleet of Russian warships and fighter jets, including the flagship aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov, has reached the North Sea and is headed for the English Channel, the UK's Ministry of . A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. The Americans have just sent their first shipment of Aid to the Ukraine what was sent was classed as LETHAL Aid. Clearly I could be wrong on this. 'The current deployments are versatile. Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. Russia's Baltic Fleet vessels theKorolev, Minsk and Kaliningrad were today sailing south past the UK followed by Northern Fleet warshipsOlenegorsky Gornyak, Pyotr Morgunov, and Georgii Pobedonosets which passed the Great Belt Bridge in Denmark on Monday. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Locally known as the UK Minister of Defence. In theory . We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. Trump was an idiot and poor president. Ukraine warns Russia has 'almost completed' build-up of forces near border - CNN. Ukrainian Defense Ministry's latest intelligence assessment yesterday warned Russia had massed more than 127,000 troops along the border, together with a sea and air component that marked a 'full strength' force. Western countries deem the Crimea to be part of Ukraine and reject Russia's claim to the seas around it. Dissapointed in Macron, but cant say im surprised. I pray it doesnt happen, but sheer negligence in thisRead more . If NSM is good enough for USN & Germany its good enough for RN. It was/would cost a big chunk of their budget to keep them operational and safe. If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. and Unless we get fair warning and are able to build stuff in advance of a peer to peer conflict it wont matter, as it will be over too quickly. All quotes delayed a minimum of 15 minutes. I think you have hit the nail on the head. These vessels are more than likely head to Syria to onload stores. The Russian ships sheltered from bad weather within the Baie de Seine, Northern France, where Severn was joined by allied French navy ships and aircraft. Its the bowl of gruel and the slice of old bread that really makes it all worthwhile. Munich - Officially, Vladimir Putin's goal in the Ukraine war is still to denazify the neighboring country. Tobias Ellwood said Russian President Vladimir Putin was taking full advantage of a weakened West. SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. "By maintaining a visible and persistent presence, the Royal Navy ensures compliance with maritime law and deters malign activity to protect our nations interests. We are were we are now and it should have never have got to this point. " Russian warship, go fuck yourself " [a] was the last communication made on 24 February 2022 during the Russian attack on Snake Island in Ukraine's territorial waters by border guard Roman Hrybov to the Russian missile cruiser Moskva. We have got troops there, albeit only a small number in a training and advisory role still complicates the plot for Putin. Trump was right about Germany being too dependent upon Russian gas and some EU states not spending enough on defence. Thanks to covid and the forthcoming energy crisis the cupboard is bare. Trump isnt the president now, its Biden. Were you not barred a couple of years ago from this site? A very rugged and reliable ship, only 500 tons carrying capacity but their operation in Syria would not have been possible without the. The result is a net drop in drivers. Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. 'Our strength depends on preserving our unity and that includes unity within Ukraine. I think Putin is going to have to attack or look weak. Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). Blocking the straits is a far cry than just a few drone attacks. Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. Count on enhancing economic & financial cooperation. production rates are a worry. US truckers are heavily non vaccinated. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. We should grant him that and make it a reality. Apart from Qaswem Soleimmani. "Despite the increase in Russian activity, both on the surface and underwater, we are always ready to respond.". I thought you might of recovered somewhat, after that meltdown you had a couple of years ago? The Army will undergo its most comprehensive modernisation since the 1980sIt will experiment its way to robotic and autonomous capabilities. The White Housewarned yesterday the situation was 'extremely dangerous' and that Moscow could launch an attack 'at any point'. (NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. However there is some good reports if you know where to look. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. it wont need much of a spark to set it all off. This is howRead more , Thats reassuring.Thanks. Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. That was 4 years ago after the initial push against ISIS was over. 25% might just be enough, with the right weapons onboard! We in the West lost sight of the long term strategic goal of the US is remaining the sole superpowewr. Is Harpoon totally ineffective against Russian ships or just a bit old?

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10 russian warships off uk coast